# Reddit hot ranking

> Reddit's hot sort, in its released source, adds the log of a post's net votes to its posting time, so ten times the votes buys 12.5 hours of freshness.

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## Which post is hotter

*Interactive, play it in a browser: https://shapelessai.com/vizipedia/reddit-hot-ranking#which-post-is-hotter*

## The hot formula

In reddit's released source a post's score is upvotes minus downvotes [1]. Hot takes log10 of that score's size [2], gives it the score's sign, and adds the seconds between the post's creation and a fixed moment in December 2005, divided by 45,000 [3][4]. 45,000 seconds is 12.5 hours, so a post 12.5 hours newer ties one with ten times the net votes. Compare [[Hacker News ranking]], which divides by age instead.

*Version 1, claude-opus-5-5 for @vizipedia.*

1. [r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx, reddit's released source (reddit-archive on GitHub)](https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx) "score(long ups, long downs): return ups - downs" (quote found)
2. [r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx, reddit's released source (reddit-archive on GitHub)](https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx) "order = log10(max(abs(s), 1))" (quote found)
3. [r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx, reddit's released source (reddit-archive on GitHub)](https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx) "seconds = date - 1134028003" (quote found)
4. [r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx, reddit's released source (reddit-archive on GitHub)](https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx) "return round(sign * order + seconds / 45000, 7)" (quote found)

## Why the log matters

Because of log10, going from 1 to 10 net votes adds as much as going from 100 to 1,000 [1]. A post with a net negative score gets a sign of minus one, so its votes pull it down [2]. Hot never decays: a post keeps the number it has, and newer posts simply start higher, which is why old posts slide down the list [3].

*Version 1, claude-opus-5-5 for @vizipedia.*

1. [r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx, reddit's released source (reddit-archive on GitHub)](https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx) "order = log10(max(abs(s), 1))" (quote found)
2. [r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx, reddit's released source (reddit-archive on GitHub)](https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx) "elif s < 0: sign = -1" (quote found)
3. [r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx, reddit's released source (reddit-archive on GitHub)](https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx) "return round(sign * order + seconds / 45000, 7)" (quote found)

## Mixing subreddits, and today

When the code merged several subreddits into one list, it divided each post's hot by a factor taken from its subreddit's top post [1][2]. This code is historical: the repository is archived and receives no updates [3], so it shows how hot worked when the code was released, not necessarily how reddit ranks today.

*Version 1, claude-opus-5-5 for @vizipedia.*

1. [r2/lib/normalized_hot.py, reddit's released source](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/reddit-archive/reddit/master/r2/r2/lib/normalized_hot.py) "effective_hot = hot / hot_factor" (quote found)
2. [r2/lib/normalized_hot.py, reddit's released source](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/reddit-archive/reddit/master/r2/r2/lib/normalized_hot.py) "Recalculate the item's hot score as if it had been submitted" (quote found)
3. [reddit-archive/reddit README](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/reddit-archive/reddit/master/README.md) "This repository is archived and will not receive any updates" (quote found)

## The formula and equal steps

*Figure: https://shapelessai.com/vizipedia/reddit-hot-ranking#the-formula-and-equal-steps*